Thursday, December 22, 2016

David John Hall- BYU

Details of David John Hall
After my first semester of being an RA in David John Hall, I have learned something extremely important: IT IS SO DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF HELEMAN!
So if you're a potential resident at Heleman Halls and looking into staying at David John, please read about what makes this hall so different from the rest of Heleman so that you can decide whether or not this living situation is a good fit for you. 

Trust me, this is a great place to live! Living in the dorms at BYU in itself is an amazing experience and definitely something to look forward to. After spending a year in Hinckley Hall and now living as an RA in David John Hall, I just thought it was important to clear up what it is really like. If you've found my blog, chances are that you were just like me as a high school senior: eager, excited, and wanting to start planning out exactly how I was going to set up my freshman dorm. If this is true, then you have probably found that there are no pictures anywhere of what the dorms look like aside from the 3 on BYU's website. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PLAN ON MY DORM ROOM WITH THOSE CRAPPY PICTURES? You're in luck! I am here to go into detail and clear up any concerns you might have. Also better pictures :)


What Does it Look Like?
For those of you who may already know you just want your own bathroom and don't care too much about anything if you don't like the way they look, this is for you. Pictures and explanations. 





I thought I would add this picture. It is what the hallway looks like. There are about 20 rooms or 10 suites per hallway and a "lounge" in the middle of the hall. This room has couches, a white board, cabinets, a sink, a microwave, toaster, trash can, rags, cleaning supplies, and an ironing board and iron. This is a really cool, unique feature to David John Hall.



The mini fridge can be seen on the desk in the picture on the left. This is how it will look when you move in, but most people buy an extension chord and put it between the beds or under a bed once it's lifted. The desk is identical on  both sides of the room. The shelves are able to be moved up and down on the track or removed altogether. You can kind of see it, but there is a bulletin board on the wall right next to the desk. All of the electrical outlets run along the wall on that strip under the shelf. This runs down the entire wall from the desk to the window on both sides. It might be smart to buy extension plugs to give yourself more mobility and accessibility with electricity.




Here is a close up of the desk. The drawers are heavy and the top one has a way to put a lock on it for valuables which is nice. The small one where the chair is pushed in is great. It has a divider in the front for pens and pencils and what have you and the rest is just open and goes almost all the way back. You can seriously fit so much in these drawers so if you're messy and have a lot of junk, I would invest in a few desk dividers or bins. There are also two drawers under the bed which are also deep and both can be locked. (you'll need your own combination lock) If you can see, under the bed there are two sets of longer legs that when you move in can be swung out, lifting your bed a couple extra feet. It's enough to fit the fridge under with little room between. It's important to note that if you put anything between the beds like the fridge, you will have difficulty opening the far drawer because the space between the beds is not much space. The mattresses are almost brand new and are plenty comfy, so don't feel like you need too much of a foam topper if you're into a soft bed, but you do you because I could literally sleep on anything and be comfy.




There is another shelving unit right above the bed as shown in the left picture. This can be moved up and down or if you wanted another shelf, you could move one of the shelves from above the desk. Once the bed is lifted, however, if the shelf is too low it can be easy to bump your head on it often. They are notorious for falling only when they have a lot of weight on them. I haven't heard of any problems with these shelves falling on anyone this year so just don't put your bowling ball on it and you'll be fine. The closets are located right when you walk in the room. One side will be two sets of two doors which open to a closet and the other side is the door to the bathroom. There is lighting just above the closets with a separate switch which is nice if you're getting ready early in the morning and your roommate is still snoozing. The shelves are adjustable but my main complaint with the closet is that there is barely any space to hang things up. I had to get creative this year, but it was doable. There are 4 drawers which are decently deep and I can fit a decent amount of clothing in them. The bottom drawer is a little different because it is twice as deep as the others. I put my pants in this one and I can fit all of my jeans and slacks with plenty of extra room. There is a towel rack on the door to the hanging side and a mirror above that. I also put a command hook on the other door and it holds my robe and hair towels and is still able to close. I needed extra drawers under my bed for my clothes, but I can also fit those drawers I got from Bed Bath and Beyond (see my later posts) in the closet between the shelves as well as on the floor under the rod. I use that one for shoes and it works really well for me.





Here is a quick view of the bathroom. There are two sinks, space under neath the sinks, those 3 shelves on either side of the mirror, a towel hook on the side of both shelves, a full length mirror on both doors, and a towel rack inside the bathroom part with the shower and toilet. That door locks. It is small. The door behind me in the picture on the right that opens up is the toilet and shower. The door blocks the toilet when it opens and the shower is across from it. So it's just about 3 feet wide and the shower is probably 3' by 3'. It's small, but it's the size of all the showers in the dorms. The biggest difference about David John is that you have your own bathroom in your room that you share with your roommate and the two girls who live next door to you. You must also clean this space. The other dorms are community bathrooms which are cleaned for you, but the bathrooms are a part of your monthly cleaning check. Some supplies are provided, but you will want to get some of your own as well. You also have to provide your own toilet paper between the 4 of you living in the suite. These are not falling apart. They are old, but they are well taken care of. 

My Personal Thoughts
David John is a great place to live. If you like being in close quarters with more people and you can keep your space tidy, then this is a good fit. If you're worried about moving out for the first time, are super messy, don't know how to clean or can't get along with other people easily, this may not be the place for you. From what I've seen, you tend to get extremely close with the three other girls you live with and possibly some others on the hall or from your ward, but it isn't one giant party in the hall because you don't leave your room as often. The dorms are a great living experience in general, but lots of people tend to leave David John after one semester. This is mostly because of missions and other personal reasons, but also because it is so much like Heritage minus the kitchen which a lot of people wish they had. It's a weird in between dorm and apartment and some people just do better in an apartment. I think a lot of people just don't know what David John is about and so they are hesitant to try it or just don't know what they are getting themselves into when they sign up for a room here. I would encourage you to check out my post about Hinckley Hall and the other dorms for more information about Heleman Halls life because everything else is still the same. There are kitchen supplies for check out, vending machines, a kitchen in the basement, basement storage, etc... I hope this helps anyone who was just as frustrated as me at the lack of information out there about the dorms :)
-Brittany


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  2. You are amazing! Thank you for your WAY better post on BYU dorms than any I've seen on the entire internet. BYU's pictures are terribly inadequate and you gave us the resources to start making some plans. My daughter wants to put a headboard behind the bed. Does that seem possible if it is tall and leans against the wall? Like can we move the bed away from the wall by like 3 inches? And do people put their beds on risers or no? Also, it sounds like you'd recommend a big shared bathroom for a new freshman because you meet more people that way?

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    1. I'm so glad I could help out! That was the reason I created this blog in the first place because I was so frustrated there was no good info ANYWHERE to be able to plan out where I was going to live. I know plenty of girls who have made headboards to put behind their bed and they look and fit just fine. However, they will have about 18 inches blocking the window and window sill since the beds are wider than the wall on either side of the window. So if she feels ok with that, then I say you are golden! They do not allow risers other than the two options provided. The beds go from 9"from the bottom of the bed to the floor or 24.5" from the bottom to the floor. Most girls choose to raise their beds but it isn't necessary. I'd say that she will meet plenty of great people at any dorm in Heleman Halls. She will probably get to know a larger variety of people in the other halls, but you really form really tight relationships with the three other suite mates in DJ which a lot of the girls here like as opposed to getting close with just one roommate. She will absolutely love it anywhere and Heleman really is the best place for freshman housing. Let me know if I can be of any more help!
      -Brittany

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  3. hi -- quick question: where inside of David John Hall do you recommend staying? are some floors better than others? some parts of the building noisier or otherwise worse than others? thanks!

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    1. If you can, I'd say be on the first floor solely because there are no elevators which makes moving in to the third floor hard. Other than that, they are all the same. You won't know who you're living in a floor with until you get there! They are all identical and I wouldn't say one is nicer than the other in any way.

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  4. I'm trying to swap into David John from Hinkley and I was wondering about how thin the walls are in the dorm? Like can you hear people talking in the dorm next to you? Or are the walls pretty thick? I'm worried because I'm thinking about bringing a small TV and if I set it up and had it play out loud could the other rooms next to the room hear?

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    1. I'm going to be going to BYU in the Fall :)

      Btw, I've read all of your posts on your blog and they have been SO helpful

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    2. Sorry both of these posts are from me, just to clarify

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    3. Congrats on your acceptance to BYU! You are going to love it! Glad I could be of some help to you! That was the goal behind creating this blog. Honestly, I have never been able to hear the room next door too much. What you can hear through is the door. If you're talking just next door or playing music at a reasonable level, you can't hear a thing, but if you blast it then they might be able to hear you. Just play it by ear, but I know plenty of people have TVs or projectors and usually don't have a problem. Good luck in your housing endeavors and just let me know if I can be of any more help!

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  5. How big is the window? Would it be worth it to get a little curtain to block out light?

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    1. Depending on what side of the hall you're on and how late you plan on getting up a black out curtain might be beneficial. The window is a decent size, I don't know the exact measurement, but it should be close to the measurement in my post about Hinckley Hall. Best way to hang that is with two command hooks to hold up a cheap rod.

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  6. do you need quarters for laundry in David John hall?

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    1. You either use quarters or your student ID can be loaded with cougar cash and using that will give you a huge discount. You can also sign up for cougar cash direct on my financial center and that will just take the money from a checking account so you're not always reloading the cougar cash account.

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  7. is there a little bedside table in between beds provided? theres one in the picture on the bye site so I wasn't sure

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    1. No, the rooms don't come with a bedside table. Most girls will put a shelving unit or the mini fridge in between the beds. A mini fridge comes with the room but any other furniture besides the desk, chair, bed and closet will need to be provided by the student should they so choose

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    2. does that include a small trashcan in the bedroom or bathroom?

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    3. Yes, there is one small trash can per room

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  8. Hi about how much space is there between the shelf above the bed and the shelves above the desk?

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  9. Is the bed in David John Hall still XL twin? I read somewhere that they are regular twins.

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    1. That is correct, they are normal size twin beds, however twin XL sheets will still fit fine

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  10. It looks like there is space under the sink? Like for a rolling cart, or stackable drawers. Any idea on dimensions?

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    1. I'm not sure on the dimensions, but I know several girls had a trash can or some drawers under the sinks. I would guess that it's about a 25" height, 26" width and 24" depth. Keep in mind as well that the hardware under the sink does stick out a bit and so you might not be able to get drawers flush with the wall the entire width.

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  11. If I have a bin or two of winter clothes, will those fit fine underneath the bed? And would I also have room to put plastic drawers underneath?

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    1. Yes, there is plenty of room under the bed if you raise it. It does get pretty high and I'm only 5'2 so I needed a lift to get into the bed. If you wanted to store seasonal items, there is also a storage closet in the basement that is completely secure. Your RA can get you in and out of that closet whenever you need those items.

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  12. What is the distance between the beds?

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    1. My best guess would be 4 feet but keep in mind that most people opt to put the mini fridge there and if you put anything too bulky between the beds (like a shelving unit for example) the drawers under the bed may not be able to open very far before hitting it.

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  13. You have been so helpful to a lot of people!
    quick question, I know you can use 3m hooks in DJH, but can you also use the 3m picture hangers (velcro type) for frames?

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    1. Any 3M product is acceptable. I love the picture velcro strips and they work so well!

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  14. Where is the ethernet connection in the room?

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  15. It is behind the desk closer to the foot of the bed on one side of the room. Each room has it on a different side

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  16. do vinyl wall decals stick? or work well in David John? I'm worried it's not a smooth wall. looks like painted over brick or cinderblock? what are some of the more common wall decor things you see?

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    1. It is a lot harder to get items to stick to cinder block walls. I have seen decals stick fine and others fall after a month. Most people will string lights or hang pictures using some sticky tack which works well. Also, washi tape or electrical tape makes some cool decor if used on the walls in a geometric pattern.

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  17. Do you happen to know/remember the mailing address for david john hall?

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  18. It is your room number, David John Hall, Provo, UT 84606. David John is weird and sometimes places like Amazon will not recognize it and will change it to John Hall, but all mail goes to BYU directly and then is sorted. The people in the mail room are used to this and will generally get the mail there no problem.

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